# Labwc In Mabox - status: ON HOLD :(
**URL:** https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138
**Category:** Labwc
**Created:** [January 1, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138 "2025-01-01T19:09:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@napcok](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/u/napcok)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138/1 "2025-01-01T19:09:05Z")
_(wiki post, updated frequently)_
## Current status: `pre-release`
`pre-release` iso image `dated 2024-12-31` is available at [repo server](https://repo.maboxlinux.org/iso/pre-release)
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## “Stable” release date
_Unknown…_
> Labwc WILL NOT be part of the upcoming Mabox Jaskier release.
> It will be part of the next release - along with the long-delayed rewrite of Mabox tools and scripts (for Openbox).
Labwc [0.8.3 is planned for 21-Feb-2025](https://github.com/labwc/labwc/discussions/2470), ideally on the same/next day, could be possible as cool-down period (fixes only) starts two weeks before.
“Stable” means - it will be included alongside Openbox in ISO, published on SourceForge and officially announced.
If you are impatient, you can install from pre-release iso and configure everything your way. Use `labwc` session for this. Thanks to our `mb-reset` script you will always have the possibility to import updated configurations later, e.g. to `mabox-labwc` session.
See: [How to test Mabox Labwc pre-release iso with Qemu (Quickemu)](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/how-to-test-mabox-labwc-pre-release-iso-with-qemu-quickemu/2140)
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## Plans TODO
Mabox will provide two sessions with Labwc
- `labwc` - basic, do-it-yourself (without Mabox tools except pipemenus)
- `mabox-labwc` - more customized
#### `labwc` - basic session
menu generator
basic useful panel: sfwbar ([feature request](https://github.com/LBCrion/sfwbar/issues/303)) or/and waybar
launcher: bemenu A-F2
launcher: fuzzel (maybe, see: [feature\_request](https://codeberg.org/dnkl/fuzzel/issues/456))
wallpaper setter wrapper
screenshots: whole screen Print or selected area W-Print
screenrecorder
updates checker/indicator - already in waybar
notifications with actions
pipemenus: dirbrowser…
some easy to apply color schemes and size/font presets as pipemenu probably
_runraise_ and _runraisehide_ scripts
Quick Terminal `F12`
[_ToggleShowDesktop_](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/toggleshowdesktop-for-labwc/2143) - script (action not implemented in Labwc yet)
#### `mabox-labwc` - more customized session
all from basic plus:
Labwc Config helper
Colorizer like stuff for Labwc theme
some jgmenu based goodies - if not possible to replace with wayland-native tools
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## Changelog and ISO pre-release
#### _unreleased_
– [_runraise_](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/run-or-raise-script-for-labwc/2147) script: `F1`- firefox, `F2` - editor (geany), `F3` - filemanager (doublecmd)
– [_runraisehide_](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/run-raise-or-hide-for-labwc/2148) script: `F12`- Quick terminal. `W-r` radio
– [toggleShowDesktop](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/toggleshowdesktop-for-labwc/2143) action replacement script: `W-d` or `leftclick-on-desktop`
– screenshots: `Print` - fullscreen, `W-Print` - area
#### 2024-12-31 : second pre-release iso
– SnapToRegion with `W-KP1..9`
#### 2024-12-29 : first pre-release iso
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## Keybinds
### Actions:
| combination | action |
| --- | --- |
| `A`-`Tab` | activate next window |
| `A`-`F4` | close window |
| `W`-`a` | toggle maximize |
| `F11` | toggle fullscreen |
| `W`-`b` | toggle decorations |
| `A`-`mouse-left` | move window |
| `A`-`mouse-right` | resize window |
| `A`-`arrow` | move window to edge |
| `W`-`arrow` | resize window to fill half the output |
| `W`-`keypad_1..9` | resize window to regions |
| `A`-`space` | show the window menu |
| `XF86_AudioLowerVolume` | amixer sset Master 5%- |
| `XF86_AudioRaiseVolume` | amixer sset Master 5%+ |
| `XF86_AudioMute` | amixer sset Master toggle |
| `XF86_MonBrightnessUp` | brightnessctl set +10% |
| `XF86_MonBrightnessDown` | brightnessctl set 10%- |
### Applications/Launchers
| combination | application |
| --- | --- |
| `A`-`F2` | launcher (gmrun) |
| `A`-`F3` | launcher (bemenu) |
| `W`-`Return`, `W`-`t` | foot |
| `W`-`f` | filemanager (pcmanfm) |
| `W`-`w` | webbrowser (firefox) |
| `W`-`e` | editor (geany) |
| `W`-`v` | volume (pavucontrol) |
| `W`-`r` | internet radio (pyradio) |
| `W`-`m` | sound and music menu (jgmenu) |
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### Author:  [@zenfas](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/u/zenfas)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138/2 "2025-06-12T14:22:18Z")
Any update for labwc? Thank you
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### Author:  [@napcok](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/u/napcok)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2025, 9:48am UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138/3 "2025-07-05T09:48:50Z")
Hi @zenfas and welcome to the forum 🙂
I’m still learning, experimenting with Labwc and other Wayland software.
I think Labwc is ready for everyday use for advanced users.
If you’re asking when the official Mabox with Labwc will be released, then it’s a different story… Labwc and some other components I’m considering are evolving quickly. Or they don’t quite meet my needs - e.g. Waybar/Sfwbar panels.
Anyway, I’m planning a new ISO with Labwc soon - but it will be marked as pre-release and intended for advanced users. Those who don’t have problems reading the documentation and maintaining the system themselves.
A new release of Labwc 0.9.0 is planned for July 11, based on wlroots 0.19.
In the coming weeks after that I’ll try to release a new ISO - for those interested.
_My current Labwc setup with some experimental / unfinished stuff…_
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### Author:  [@PerfMonk](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/u/PerfMonk)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2026, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138/4 "2026-03-01T03:35:06Z")
Hello!
Still keeping an eye on Mabox with Labwc. There are nice graphic-shell built with quickshell.
Have a look at the very nice : [noctalia-shell](https://github.com/noctalia-dev/noctalia-shell)
Would a graphic-shell could be a way to built a desktop very close to the X11 openbox mabox desktop ???
(just saying…) 🤔
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### Author:  [@napcok](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/u/napcok)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2026, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138/5 "2026-03-02T09:34:39Z")
I stopped my experiments with Labwc after a few months. And after an emergency hardware replacement, I don’t even have Labwc installed yet.
At the moment I have no plans (or time) to work on Mabox with Labwc, but we’ll see what the future brings.
After a few months of use, I rate Labwc as a solid environment that works pleasantly and stably.
Personally, however, I definitely prefer an environment based on X11, Openbox, tint2, jgmenu and so on.
Perhaps thanks to projects like [Noctalia](https://github.com/noctalia-dev/noctalia-shell) or [DankMaterialShell](https://github.com/AvengeMedia/DankMaterialShell), it’s easy to build a comfortable environment based on Labwc. Although I haven’t tried it yet.
BTW. Labwc is already at 0.9.4 👍
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY7AFh-MnOk)
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### Author:  [@SauronsMouth](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/u/SauronsMouth)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2026, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138/6 "2026-03-04T00:36:36Z")
Personally I’m fine with using strictly X11 for a number of reasons. Reason #1 being that Wayland is NOT ready for prime time. Also I have begun to transition to XLibre server as the entities behind Wayland and XORG are actively trying to kill xserver.
I’m a stubborn old man. If it works, why push for different methods to achieve the same goals.
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### Author:  [@lobaluna](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/u/lobaluna)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2026, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.maboxlinux.org/t/labwc-in-mabox-status-on-hold/2138/7 "2026-04-03T22:25:15Z")
I totally agree with you.
However, trying to find an explanation for your (rethorical?) question at the end… Maybe because humans are “always more” kind-of species.